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poor body I'm electric rubber of the
 

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poor body I'm electric rubber of the
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organizer of excess color here are on
 

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organizer of excess color here are on
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location at fauna and look at just for
 

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location at fauna and look at just for
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the panel infrastructure after dinner
 

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the panel infrastructure after dinner
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and who was a mark mcbride from turbine
 

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and who was a mark mcbride from turbine
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hello what is the current battle I'm
 

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hello what is the current battle I'm
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currently CEO and co-founder of turbine
 

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currently CEO and co-founder of turbine
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labs and what does our lives so turbine
 

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labs and what does our lives so turbine
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labs is a product that helps you balance
 

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labs is a product that helps you balance
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the tension between iterating your
 

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the tension between iterating your
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infrastructure quickly and maintaining a
 

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infrastructure quickly and maintaining a
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stable customer experience so we built a
 

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stable customer experience so we built a
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reverse proxy and a modern management
 

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reverse proxy and a modern management
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plane to allow you to do a lot of sort
 

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plane to allow you to do a lot of sort
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of modern release practices testing and
 

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production Bluegreen deploys Canaries
 

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production Bluegreen deploys Canaries
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etc in a way that's seamless and fits
 

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etc in a way that's seamless and fits
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into whatever stack you have mm-hmm so
 

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into whatever stack you have mm-hmm so
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it's just the where of several kind of
 

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it's just the where of several kind of
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infrastructure start up in the service
 

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infrastructure start up in the service
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yes our house of skyliner and lower rent
 

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yes our house of skyliner and lower rent
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works and I think people want from
 

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works and I think people want from
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different angles I want to give you yes
 

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different angles I want to give you yes
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sure the whole focus on structure and so
 

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sure the whole focus on structure and so
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as I think that is that developers will
 

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as I think that is that developers will
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just you know pushed up to github rate
 

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just you know pushed up to github rate
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as a magical happen so what is kind of
 

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as a magical happen so what is kind of
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your specific taken last year so I think
 

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your specific taken last year so I think
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skyliner is great we followed their
 

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skyliner is great we followed their
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trajectory pretty closely and I think
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they're really good at getting you from
 

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they're really good at getting you from
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like a raw github repository to
 

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something deployed in production as a v1
 

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something deployed in production as a v1
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and I think you know they're they're
 

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and I think you know they're they're
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offering a lot of just ops
 

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offering a lot of just ops
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stripe and Yammer and other places what
 

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stripe and Yammer and other places what
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we're looking at is really for people
 

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we're looking at is really for people
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who already have it be one out in
 

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who already have it be one out in
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production when they reach the end of
 

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production when they reach the end of
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the natural life of that architecture
 

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the natural life of that architecture
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how do they move to what's next and so
 

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how do they move to what's next and so
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you know microservices are a big thing
 

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you know microservices are a big thing
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now a lot of people are looking to move
 

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now a lot of people are looking to move
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from what they have to Cooper Nettie's
 

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from what they have to Cooper Nettie's
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or tomatoes but none of those companies
 

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or tomatoes but none of those companies
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really have a story for how you move
 

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really have a story for how you move
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from what you have today into that
 

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from what you have today into that
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system and so by putting the proxy is an
 

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system and so by putting the proxy is an
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indirection layer between your customers
 

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and their experience and your
 

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infrastructure you allow yourself more
 

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infrastructure you allow yourself more
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flexibility to switch that up
 

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flexibility to switch that up
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hmm so you know talking over with some
 

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hmm so you know talking over with some
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of the Skyliner folks there's this kind
 

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of the Skyliner folks there's this kind
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of get you to be one ours is get you
 

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of get you to be one ours is get you
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from v1 to v2 interesting I want to come
 

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from v1 to v2 interesting I want to come
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the thing to be compiled I think right
 

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the thing to be compiled I think right
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now Skyliners opinionated enough it
 

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now Skyliners opinionated enough it
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would be difficult and doesn't fit like
 

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would be difficult and doesn't fit like
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seamlessly into their into their stack
 

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seamlessly into their into their stack
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because they're they're using docker as
 

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because they're they're using docker as
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a unit of deployment but I believe
 

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a unit of deployment but I believe
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they're fairly opinionated with the sort
 

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they're fairly opinionated with the sort
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of ancillary stuff they do around ec2 to
 

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of ancillary stuff they do around ec2 to
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get a nice stable or is AWS a nice
 

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get a nice stable or is AWS a nice
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stable operational platform I think in
 

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stable operational platform I think in
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the future there are things we can do
 

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the future there are things we can do
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that probably work complimentary Lee in
 

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that probably work complimentary Lee in
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a complementary fashion with them but
 

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a complementary fashion with them but
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right now like our focus is people who
 

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right now like our focus is people who
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are kind of later in life engineering
 

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are kind of later in life engineering
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wives and skyliner is well call is this
 

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wives and skyliner is well call is this
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one form of goondas doing so the buoyant
 

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one form of goondas doing so the buoyant
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is really focusing on our PC and making
 

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is really focusing on our PC and making
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those deep service stacks work
 

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effectively and a Twitter that was a
 

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effectively and a Twitter that was a
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huge deal you know as I think William in
 

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huge deal you know as I think William in
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the buoyant literature shows once you
 

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the buoyant literature shows once you
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have a chain where there's 10 RPC calls
 

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have a chain where there's 10 RPC calls
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failures on that become much much more
 

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failures on that become much much more
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likely time out to harder to manage
 

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likely time out to harder to manage
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deadlines are harder to manage circuit
 

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deadlines are harder to manage circuit
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breakers retries that's all that's all
 

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breakers retries that's all that's all
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really difficult we're focused more at
 

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really difficult we're focused more at
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the edge and allowing you to mutate
 

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the edge and allowing you to mutate
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infrastructure and modulate you know the
 

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infrastructure and modulate you know the
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deployment topology of your application
 

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in a way that's flexible and is really
 

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in a way that's flexible and is really
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low risk to customers and so while
 

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low risk to customers and so while
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they're dealing more with kind of this
 

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they're dealing more with kind of this
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core you know fairly complicated service
 

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topology and helping you manage that
 

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topology and helping you manage that
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effectively which is still very
 

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effectively which is still very
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important we're focused more at the edge
 

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important we're focused more at the edge
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and managing that customer experience
 

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and managing that customer experience
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more effectively mm-hmm and so this is
 

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more effectively mm-hmm and so this is
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kind of similar to saying like how how
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does boy and compared to cloud player
 

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does boy and compared to cloud player
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like those are very different things at
 

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like those are very different things at
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very different parts of the network
 

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very different parts of the network
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stack and and I think we fit in between
 

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stack and and I think we fit in between
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those two things okay so it makes me
 

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those two things okay so it makes me
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super curious to see like an example
 

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super curious to see like an example
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Roger might become common give us a folk
 

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Roger might become common give us a folk
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I'm sure maybe yeah without you for
 

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I'm sure maybe yeah without you for
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example one person I wonder right so you
 

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example one person I wonder right so you
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you were basically leading the build
 

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you were basically leading the build
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team a Twitter and obviously it's all
 

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team a Twitter and obviously it's all
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very dramatic and so usually usually
 

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very dramatic and so usually usually
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the culture company may be kind of all
 

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the culture company may be kind of all
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the product eyes
 

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the product eyes
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best practices right right so I wonder
 

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best practices right right so I wonder
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how do you see that you know work in the
 

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how do you see that you know work in the
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real world where everybody has opinions
 

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real world where everybody has opinions
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has already some kind of huge processor
 

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has already some kind of huge processor
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and entrenched kind of habit so the
 

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and entrenched kind of habit so the
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world so I think there's been a lot of
 

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world so I think there's been a lot of
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work put in to see icd recently if you
 

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look at like Jenkins was a fairly novel
 

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look at like Jenkins was a fairly novel
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thing five years ago and now there's a
 

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thing five years ago and now there's a
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bunch of Jenkins clones and people have
 

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bunch of Jenkins clones and people have
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pushed more from CI to CD mm-hmm I think
 

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pushed more from CI to CD mm-hmm I think
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the question we asked was what does the
 

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the question we asked was what does the
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D and C D mean that people have deployed
 

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or delivery or what have you but even
 

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or delivery or what have you but even
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there it's like a really sort of fuzzy
 

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notion is that meaning i push an image
 

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to docker hub does it mean I actually
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deploy a thing on to infrastructure does
 

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i mean i deploy and it's visible to
 

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i mean i deploy and it's visible to
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customers yeah we're really hoping that
 

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people sort of separate deploy from
 

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release mm-hmm getting something running
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on compute automate the hell out of that
 

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on compute automate the hell out of that
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mhm and I think that can be fairly
 

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mhm and I think that can be fairly
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namespaces and Cooper Nettie's what's
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harder for people to do or risky for
 

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people to do is that step of releasing
 

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new code to customers and that's
 

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new code to customers and that's
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something for you if you release
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something that's faulty that customers
 

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something that's faulty that customers
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impacted you're going to get called and
 

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impacted you're going to get called and
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that's bad yes and so to the extent that
 

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that's bad yes and so to the extent that
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you deploy just a trickle of customers
 

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to new code you can compare the
 

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to new code you can compare the
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two versions of code is this one slower
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it's a throwing errors more mmm does it
 

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it's a throwing errors more mmm does it
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have a different behavior than the one
 

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have a different behavior than the one
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that you had deployed before and then if
 

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that you had deployed before and then if
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you're separating deploy from release
 

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you're separating deploy from release
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and using routing as your release
 

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and using routing as your release
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mechanism if you notice it's bad fixing
 

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mechanism if you notice it's bad fixing
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that becomes a fairly trivial step of
 

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that becomes a fairly trivial step of
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just we won't route to that new version
 

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just we won't route to that new version
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anymore mm-hmm so to the extent that you
 

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anymore mm-hmm so to the extent that you
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can make that sort of less risky by
 

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can make that sort of less risky by
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releasing it to fewer customers quick
 

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releasing it to fewer customers quick
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detection of faults because you can
 

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detection of faults because you can
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observe old versus new system in a quick
 

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observe old versus new system in a quick
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reversion if you do notice a fault those
 

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reversion if you do notice a fault those
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releases become less risky and you can
 

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releases become less risky and you can
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get true sort of the dream is I check in
 

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get true sort of the dream is I check in
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to get and it goes to customers if it's
 

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to get and it goes to customers if it's
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good mm-hmm like that's everything else
 

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good mm-hmm like that's everything else
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is so it would be fine as a follicle
 

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is so it would be fine as a follicle
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bicycle right everything else is sort of
 

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bicycle right everything else is sort of
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attacks in between
 

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attacks in between
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and I think we're in pretty good shape
 

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and I think we're in pretty good shape
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there I think strict deployed based
 

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there I think strict deployed based
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approach is going to be sort of
 

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approach is going to be sort of
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problematic to get working right I'm
 

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problematic to get working right I'm
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treating that getting it running on
 

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treating that getting it running on
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computer versus managing the release to
 

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computer versus managing the release to
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customers is a good separation and
 

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customers is a good separation and
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something we're working on making better
 

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something we're working on making better
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right so I I don't like it you know like
 

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right so I I don't like it you know like
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you know I wish you know like in my
 

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you know I wish you know like in my
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previous how much as I could about this
 

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previous how much as I could about this
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so how easy is it to plug into existing
 

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so how easy is it to plug into existing
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companies sure so most people already
 

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companies sure so most people already
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have something like this in place is
 

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have something like this in place is
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just crude right now a little Jenkins
 

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just crude right now a little Jenkins
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was also like some so it's good ones who
 

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was also like some so it's good ones who
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think is yeah they have a deployment
 

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think is yeah they have a deployment
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tool they also probably have a load
 

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tool they also probably have a load
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balancer a reverse proxy they're using
 

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balancer a reverse proxy they're using
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now so amazon has the OBS they just
 

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now so amazon has the OBS they just
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released a lb which is a more
 

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released a lb which is a more
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sophisticated version WOB and so we see
 

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sophisticated version WOB and so we see
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ourselves as a better back half of the
 

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ourselves as a better back half of the
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elb mm-hmm so when we go in for a
 

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elb mm-hmm so when we go in for a
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deployed so i still use your lb to be
 

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deployed so i still use your lb to be
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that armor sort of on the edge
 

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that armor sort of on the edge
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protecting your infrastructure from
 

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protecting your infrastructure from
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scary internet traffic mm-hmm but have
 

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scary internet traffic mm-hmm but have
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this companion that the software based
 

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this companion that the software based
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more flexible routing engine that sits
 

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more flexible routing engine that sits
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right behind it to really direct
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customer traffic to the right places and
 

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customer traffic to the right places and
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if you have that and the right
 

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if you have that and the right
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management plane is a point to observe
 

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management plane is a point to observe
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customer experience the point to affect
 

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customer experience the point to affect
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control and it's also a place to keep a
 

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control and it's also a place to keep a
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record of all the changes made to
 

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record of all the changes made to
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customer experience and so that's sort
 

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customer experience and so that's sort
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of where we slot in it's not that we're
 

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of where we slot in it's not that we're
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adding a whole new piece of
 

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adding a whole new piece of
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infrastructure we're really just adding
 

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infrastructure we're really just adding
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sort of an extra super power to a piece
 

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sort of an extra super power to a piece
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of infrastructure you already have okay
 

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of infrastructure you already have okay
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so let's all super exciting you know i
 

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so let's all super exciting you know i
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can't wait to see you guys present all
 

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can't wait to see you guys present all
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this one for me tops all right maybe
 

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this one for me tops all right maybe
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like you know it's kind of a live demo
 

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like you know it's kind of a live demo
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sure and that will do really cool
 

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sure and that will do really cool
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because i think a lot of people can
 

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because i think a lot of people can
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actually use it yeah i hope so cool it
 

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actually use it yeah i hope so cool it
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was great to have you back in the
 

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was great to have you back in the
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community okay yeah yeah and we're
 

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community okay yeah yeah and we're
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neighbors you know i'm going to visit
 

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neighbors you know i'm going to visit
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you guys know me too nice all right
 

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you guys know me too nice all right
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