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again I am Owen Reese I'm director of
 

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again I am Owen Reese I'm director of
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creative management over at medium at
 

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creative management over at medium at
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all right that's that's a good one how I
 

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all right that's that's a good one how I
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got involved the skela so was working at
 

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got involved the skela so was working at
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a company and we were actually doing a
 

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a company and we were actually doing a
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lot of C++ and our clients one of us to
 

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lot of C++ and our clients one of us to
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move to.net and F sharp was still a
 

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move to.net and F sharp was still a
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research language at Microsoft but being
 

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research language at Microsoft but being
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an ml offshoot of course I was naturally
 

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an ml offshoot of course I was naturally
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attracted but when I told us we had to
 

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attracted but when I told us we had to
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go to the JVM I looked for language that
 

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go to the JVM I looked for language that
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was similar I found Scala and I started
 

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was similar I found Scala and I started
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attending the Boston Scala meetup groups
 

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attending the Boston Scala meetup groups
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and after a while you know I wanted to
 

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and after a while you know I wanted to
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just join a company because I figured
 

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just join a company because I figured
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you know after a year and a half of just
 

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you know after a year and a half of just
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sort of being a language lurker it was
 

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sort of being a language lurker it was
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time for me to take the plunge so I did
 

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time for me to take the plunge so I did
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about nearly six years ago I you know
 

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about nearly six years ago I you know
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joined a company and did Scala full-time
 

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joined a company and did Scala full-time
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hadn't really looked back since you know
 

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hadn't really looked back since you know
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uh that's that's funny an ideal stack I
 

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uh that's that's funny an ideal stack I
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don't really have one I mean my ideal
 

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don't really have one I mean my ideal
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stack is the one that's most productive
 

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stack is the one that's most productive
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for for the developers so I think right
 

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for for the developers so I think right
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now that stack is just a small enough
 

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now that stack is just a small enough
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roles so or different applications that
 

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roles so or different applications that
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are being built you know i'm looking at
 

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are being built you know i'm looking at
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scala we look at go we look at
 

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a lot of interest in those three
 

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a lot of interest in those three
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languages and python as well 44 sort of
 

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glue and scripting and a lot of the
 

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glue and scripting and a lot of the
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other things that we building like AWS
 

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other things that we building like AWS
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land does and so you know these these
 

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land does and so you know these these
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languages all have similarities there at
 

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languages all have similarities there at
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all have functions as first-class
 

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all have functions as first-class
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citizens and things of that nature but
 

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citizens and things of that nature but
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there's no flexibility and enough
 

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there's no flexibility and enough
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variety there to keep people entertained
 

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variety there to keep people entertained
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and you know talking about an ideal
 

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and you know talking about an ideal
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versus actual you know i think i think
 

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i'd be happy working with almost
 

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anything which is which is odd to hear
 

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anything which is which is odd to hear
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at a scholar conference but you know at
 

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home you know i hack on Scala and that's
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that's the language for me but i don't
 

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that's the language for me but i don't
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want to i don't want to force you know
 

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want to i don't want to force you know
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my preferences on other people alright
 

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my preferences on other people alright
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so i mean every conference that miles
 

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so i mean every conference that miles
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savings at you know i look forward to a
 

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savings at you know i look forward to a
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talk there but i will say Rob norris
 

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talk there but i will say Rob norris
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when he gives the doobie talk my
 

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when he gives the doobie talk my
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compliments to the man he's able to take
 

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compliments to the man he's able to take
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a concept that might be difficult it
 

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a concept that might be difficult it
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might seem and approachable because it
 

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might seem and approachable because it
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has some sort of scary signature and and
 

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has some sort of scary signature and and
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make it very approachable and that's you
 

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make it very approachable and that's you
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know that's something i'd like to strive
 

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know that's something i'd like to strive
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and so he said he's improved this talk
 

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and so he said he's improved this talk
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further I saw a version before it's call
 

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further I saw a version before it's call
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up north and so I'm very much looking
 

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up north and so I'm very much looking
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