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Hi, I'm Vasili. I'm the founder of
 

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Hi, I'm Vasili. I'm the founder of
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Cogni. Cognney is a memory tool for AI
 

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Cogni. Cognney is a memory tool for AI
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apps and agents. And uh yeah, that's
 

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apps and agents. And uh yeah, that's
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all. I think the professional highlight
 

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all. I think the professional highlight
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uh involving AI was the ability to
 

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uh involving AI was the ability to
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participate in a lot of events here in
 

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participate in a lot of events here in
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San Francisco where I took the stage and
 

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San Francisco where I took the stage and
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was able to discuss what AI memory is,
 

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was able to discuss what AI memory is,
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what context engineering is and how can
 

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what context engineering is and how can
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we actually make AI more reliable and
 

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we actually make AI more reliable and
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give it the accuracy and access to the
 

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give it the accuracy and access to the
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company's data so we can effectively
 

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company's data so we can effectively
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utilize it to the full extent and need
 

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utilize it to the full extent and need
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it has. Great question. Um reliable AI
 

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it has. Great question. Um reliable AI
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for me is a system that allows us to
 

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for me is a system that allows us to
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interact with the data points and uh
 

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interact with the data points and uh
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other uh let's say elements uh connected
 

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other uh let's say elements uh connected
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to uh operational efficiency. I'll need
 

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to uh operational efficiency. I'll need
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to do this one. So uh reliable AI for me
 

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to do this one. So uh reliable AI for me
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is a system that has the ability to
 

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is a system that has the ability to
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interact with the data from the company
 

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interact with the data from the company
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side, the business side, but also from
 

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side, the business side, but also from
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the data with the data from the agentic
 

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the data with the data from the agentic
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side and merge all of those into
 

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side and merge all of those into
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representation that can learn uh
 

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representation that can learn uh
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activate itself, modulate its own
 

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activate itself, modulate its own
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behavior and uh be um predictable in a
 

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behavior and uh be um predictable in a
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way that we can know how, what and where
 

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way that we can know how, what and where
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happened and why certain answers came
 

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happened and why certain answers came
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from these AI systems. I think right now
 

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from these AI systems. I think right now
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it's a black box and we definitely want
 

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it's a black box and we definitely want
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to change that. I think community uh
 

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to change that. I think community uh
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needs to start building uh because often
 

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needs to start building uh because often
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enough uh the community tends to stay on
 

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enough uh the community tends to stay on
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very high level discussions on what
 

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very high level discussions on what
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reliable AI is about. I think do going
 

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reliable AI is about. I think do going
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to the to the field working on the
 

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to the to the field working on the
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problems trying to solve it for everyday
 

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problems trying to solve it for everyday
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user can actually get you much further
 

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user can actually get you much further
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than than just theory. I don't know but
 

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than than just theory. I don't know but
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with that I would assume that we would
 

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with that I would assume that we would
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have some type of an underlying set of
 

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have some type of an underlying set of
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inference tools like base 10 or others
 

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inference tools like base 10 or others
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that host the models that you would have
 

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that host the models that you would have
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tools on top or systems that allow us to
 

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tools on top or systems that allow us to
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manage the traditional data because
 

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manage the traditional data because
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there is still going to be a need for
 

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there is still going to be a need for
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deterministic data systems. there would
 

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deterministic data systems. there would
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be uh a need for uh let's say
 

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be uh a need for uh let's say
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application layer uh automation where we
 

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application layer uh automation where we
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can launch and delete apps on the fly
 

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can launch and delete apps on the fly
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for everyday use cases and in between
 

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for everyday use cases and in between
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that there is going to be a need for
 

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that there is going to be a need for
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memory and on top of that probably
 

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memory and on top of that probably
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