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oh my name is Bill Venters and I am with
 

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oh my name is Bill Venters and I am with
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our team an Inc and I am be present well
 

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our team an Inc and I am be present well
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we just had a legacy we have this really
 

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we just had a legacy we have this really
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old website that we're trying to update
 

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old website that we're trying to update
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and we just moved it to AWS from a very
 

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and we just moved it to AWS from a very
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expensive place and we're trying to
 

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expensive place and we're trying to
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integrate the old with the new trying to
 

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integrate the old with the new trying to
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update it so I don't I didn't have too
 

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update it so I don't I didn't have too
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much scale directly what I think I'm
 

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much scale directly what I think I'm
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having the challenge of scaling is
 

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having the challenge of scaling is
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actually scaling the company so it was
 

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actually scaling the company so it was
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originally just me and now we're seven
 

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originally just me and now we're seven
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people so trying to like get things off
 

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people so trying to like get things off
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of me and figure out how to get people
 

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of me and figure out how to get people
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taking care of things
 

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and since we're Scala it includes we do
 

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and since we're Scala it includes we do
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consulting so it's includes teaching
 

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consulting so it's includes teaching
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people Scala and trying to scale like
 

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people Scala and trying to scale like
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that knowledge so I've I've been you
 

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that knowledge so I've I've been you
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know I've experienced the challenges of
 

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know I've experienced the challenges of
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growing a team and with Scala in the mix
 

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growing a team and with Scala in the mix
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well we do client work so there's
 

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well we do client work so there's
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definitely we have you know there are
 

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definitely we have you know there are
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issues so but yeah I think that for me
 

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issues so but yeah I think that for me
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the main thing is growth is scaling the
 

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functional programming is fun for one
 

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functional programming is fun for one
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thing so it's just a much more enjoyable
 

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thing so it's just a much more enjoyable
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I don't know it's it's it is actually
 

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I don't know it's it's it is actually
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and that that makes a difference you
 

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and that that makes a difference you
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know that you enjoy it and I think it's
 

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know that you enjoy it and I think it's
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it it's interesting because it has this
 

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it it's interesting because it has this
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and it's you know I think it is in the
 

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and it's you know I think it is in the
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in the large definitely but what
 

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in the large definitely but what
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happened is been when people come to
 

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happened is been when people come to
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Scala they they come from different
 

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Scala they they come from different
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backgrounds but they all tend to
 

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backgrounds but they all tend to
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gravitate towards functional programming
 

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gravitate towards functional programming
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and that's just how they want to use it
 

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and that's just how they want to use it
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it's not really there that they're
 

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it's not really there that they're
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forced to or they are told they have to
 

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forced to or they are told they have to
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do it that way I mean it takes them a
 

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do it that way I mean it takes them a
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while to change from these old habits
 

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while to change from these old habits
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but it's just kind of a natural
 

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but it's just kind of a natural
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you just kind of fall into that flow and
 

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you just kind of fall into that flow and
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that's how you gonna do it
 

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that's how you gonna do it
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I think the hallway track which Mike
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bill quiz that we coin that that term
 

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bill quiz that we coin that that term
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dis really no I actually do always like
 

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dis really no I actually do always like
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when I go to conferences in general I
 

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when I go to conferences in general I
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like seeing people and talking to people
 

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like seeing people and talking to people
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talking to new people thought the old
 

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talking to new people thought the old
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friends that's really I guess you know
 

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friends that's really I guess you know
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these days the programming community is
 

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these days the programming community is
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is connected online really well but
 

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is connected online really well but
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there's something about being in person
 

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there's something about being in person
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that is just you know it's really
 

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that is just you know it's really
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important to do pretty often that's what
 

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important to do pretty often that's what
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