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my name is Zach Lobo Begelman I work for
 

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my name is Zach Lobo Begelman I work for
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credit karma and i'm a senior software
 

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credit karma and i'm a senior software
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engineer on the data platform yeah it
 

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engineer on the data platform yeah it
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was the first JVM language I ever worked
 

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was the first JVM language I ever worked
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with I had a weird trajectory getting
 

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with I had a weird trajectory getting
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there I initially did a lot of work in
 

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there I initially did a lot of work in
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c-sharp and then I wound up moving into
 

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c-sharp and then I wound up moving into
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PHP and then finally in Scala I really
 

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PHP and then finally in Scala I really
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like the type system being able to be
 

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like the type system being able to be
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specific and then other times vague
 

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specific and then other times vague
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about what your type is I just feel like
 

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about what your type is I just feel like
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that can aid not only developer
 

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that can aid not only developer
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efficiency but it also makes for just
 

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efficiency but it also makes for just
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kind of a more correct application if
 

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kind of a more correct application if
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you're more explicit about the types in
 

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you're more explicit about the types in
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certain places where it matters yeah
 

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certain places where it matters yeah
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that's really what I like the most about
 

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that's really what I like the most about
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it I'd say yeah I don't know if there
 

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it I'd say yeah I don't know if there
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really is an ideal stack I think it
 

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really is an ideal stack I think it
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depends a lot on the problem you're
 

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trying to solve you have a lot of so
 

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trying to solve you have a lot of so
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many different levers and knobs to work
 

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many different levers and knobs to work
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with and especially in the industry
 

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with and especially in the industry
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today and with it probably would be the
 

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today and with it probably would be the
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Java stack specifically the just the JVM
 

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stack there's so many tools available
 

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stack there's so many tools available
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that are you know enterprise-ready just
 

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that are you know enterprise-ready just
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because it's been around for so long i
 

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because it's been around for so long i
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certainly liked working with acha
 

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certainly liked working with acha
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that you can leverage with in that
 

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that you can leverage with in that
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readable understandable code that scales
 

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readable understandable code that scales
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really well though finagle also seems
 

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really well though finagle also seems
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interesting it probably would be between
 

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interesting it probably would be between
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those two depending on what I'm trying
 

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those two depending on what I'm trying
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to optimize for the current stack yeah
 

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to optimize for the current stack yeah
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within the data platform group you'll
 

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within the data platform group you'll
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find a whole mess of different things we
 

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find a whole mess of different things we
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have custom Java code we have a open
 

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have custom Java code we have a open
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source tool we use a decent amount of
 

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source tool we use a decent amount of
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vodka and so it's mostly job in Scala
 

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vodka and so it's mostly job in Scala
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and we even actually have some PHP
 

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and we even actually have some PHP
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hidden around there which let me tell
 

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hidden around there which let me tell
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you does not scale as well
 

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you does not scale as well
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well one of my co-workers is actually
 

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well one of my co-workers is actually
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giving a talk he's also he's talking
 

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giving a talk he's also he's talking
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about similarly what's the right tool
 

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about similarly what's the right tool
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for the job it's the numbers every Scala
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programmer should know and there's a lot
 

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programmer should know and there's a lot
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of really cool information in that I've
 

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of really cool information in that I've
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certainly seen the talk a few times just
 

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certainly seen the talk a few times just
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as the run throughs and I'm excited to
 

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as the run throughs and I'm excited to
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see how it goes for the actual thing you
 

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see how it goes for the actual thing you
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might wind up pissing off a few people
 

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might wind up pissing off a few people
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and that should be fun to watch their
 

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and that should be fun to watch their
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questions afterwards so I think it'll be
 

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questions afterwards so I think it'll be
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