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hello everybody I'm Alexa kov the
 

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hello everybody I'm Alexa kov the
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founder and organizer of baera eii the
 

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founder and organizer of baera eii the
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longest running deepest technical metup
 

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longest running deepest technical metup
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on AI in the world here were on location
 

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on AI in the world here were on location
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at Cloud flare at the AI Alliance
 

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at Cloud flare at the AI Alliance
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sponsor met up on agents and with me I
 

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sponsor met up on agents and with me I
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have Max Maximillian distinguished
 

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have Max Maximillian distinguished
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engineer at IBM research creator of bii
 

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engineer at IBM research creator of bii
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framework I don't know if I'm a Creator
 

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framework I don't know if I'm a Creator
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Co Creator who is going to talk about it
 

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Co Creator who is going to talk about it
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and I know Max for a long time so max
 

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and I know Max for a long time so max
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tell us a little bit about yourself like
 

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tell us a little bit about yourself like
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how you did you end up doing this what
 

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how you did you end up doing this what
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have you been doing Open Source before
 

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have you been doing Open Source before
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like would you do you want to know what
 

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like would you do you want to know what
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I would rather be doing uh sure I'd
 

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I would rather be doing uh sure I'd
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rather be using my camera and shooting
 

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rather be using my camera and shooting
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but other than that I'm happy to chat
 

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but other than that I'm happy to chat
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with you so um I guess I've been in the
 

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with you so um I guess I've been in the
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for almost 20 years now uh I moved after
 

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for almost 20 years now uh I moved after
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my PhD to work at IBM research at
 

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my PhD to work at IBM research at
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Almaden and then uh I kind of left
 

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Almaden and then uh I kind of left
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research to go work on open source so I
 

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research to go work on open source so I
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was one of the people contributing to um
 

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was one of the people contributing to um
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Cloud Foundry uh in uh
 

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kubernetes and then now I went back to
 

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kubernetes and then now I went back to
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research to work on uh essentially AI
 

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research to work on uh essentially AI
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which is uh one of the things that we're
 

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which is uh one of the things that we're
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doing which is the B Forma yeah and uh
 

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doing which is the B Forma yeah and uh
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uh you were also working on postquantum
 

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uh you were also working on postquantum
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cryptography yes yes yes that that's an
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interesting thing so part of weas and I
 

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interesting thing so part of weas and I
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I went into like when I became a
 

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I went into like when I became a
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distinguished engineer they wanted me to
 

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distinguished engineer they wanted me to
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help spread open source across the
 

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help spread open source across the
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company yes and uh one of the division
 

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company yes and uh one of the division
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that needed help on open source was
 

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that needed help on open source was
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quantum yes so I went there to help
 

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quantum yes so I went there to help
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create this whole idea of post Quantum
 

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create this whole idea of post Quantum
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cryptography right and you help put
 

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cryptography right and you help put
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together the Coalition of do ex exactly
 

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together the Coalition of do ex exactly
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we call it P a postquantum uh
 

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we call it P a postquantum uh
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cryptography Alliance similar to your AI
 

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cryptography Alliance similar to your AI
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Alliance so yeah well this is great and
 

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Alliance so yeah well this is great and
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now basically you know this uh agic
 

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now basically you know this uh agic
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framework is the so that's funny because
 

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framework is the so that's funny because
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agents my background is actually my PhD
 

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agents my background is actually my PhD
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was on that and it was 25 years ago yes
 

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was on that and it was 25 years ago yes
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and at the time we didn't have the kind
 

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and at the time we didn't have the kind
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of AI that we have now LMS and so on so
 

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of AI that we have now LMS and so on so
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it was kind of like a pipe dream MH so
 

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it was kind of like a pipe dream MH so
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everybody built their own framework
 

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everybody built their own framework
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every they build their own agents their
 

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every they build their own agents their
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own agent models and we not they were
 

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own agent models and we not they were
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all pretty dumb uh they're still dumb
 

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all pretty dumb uh they're still dumb
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somewhat but they very very like not
 

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somewhat but they very very like not
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capable like they are today and uh and
 

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capable like they are today and uh and
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you would do all kinds of interesting
 

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you would do all kinds of interesting
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stuff so for me when um when when the AI
 

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stuff so for me when um when when the AI
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Revolution let's say happened a couple
 

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Revolution let's say happened a couple
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years ago with chat GPT and so on that
 

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years ago with chat GPT and so on that
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kind of put it in the frame it became
 

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kind of put it in the frame it became
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very clear that now this is the time to
 

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very clear that now this is the time to
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actually apply a lot of the stuff that I
 

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actually apply a lot of the stuff that I
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was doing almost 25 years ago now
 

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was doing almost 25 years ago now
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obviously you know it's not just taking
 

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obviously you know it's not just taking
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what you were doing the past it's just
 

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what you were doing the past it's just
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now we can do it you know that's right
 

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now we can do it you know that's right
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it's funny I didn't know about this
 

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it's funny I didn't know about this
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about you so it actually turns out we're
 

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about you so it actually turns out we're
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academic brothers so I came to this
 

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academic brothers so I came to this
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country right in 1993 to dmouth college
 

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country right in 1993 to dmouth college
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so my first paper which you know we
 

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so my first paper which you know we
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coauthor with my adviser J sank who is
 

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coauthor with my adviser J sank who is
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one of the fathers of De learning was on
 

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one of the fathers of De learning was on
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intelligent agents at the time it was
 

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intelligent agents at the time it was
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the time when you know a lot of funded
 

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the time when you know a lot of funded
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research kind of intelligent agents it
 

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research kind of intelligent agents it
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was all theory was you know
 

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was all theory was you know
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hypothetically how would they model this
 

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hypothetically how would they model this
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right but how do you actually go build
 

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right but how do you actually go build
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this now we can do this right now now we
 

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this now we can do this right now now we
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can actually do it because my papers
 

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can actually do it because my papers
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were about multi-agent system multi syst
 

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were about multi-agent system multi syst
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and then now it's like it's a real thing
 

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and then now it's like it's a real thing
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it's the real thing that's right so
 

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it's the real thing that's right so
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everybody's doing Asians right and like
 

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everybody's doing Asians right and like
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like you called uh you you write this
 

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like you called uh you you write this
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we're look forward to your talk but like
 

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we're look forward to your talk but like
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uh I mean this is the air of asent
 

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uh I mean this is the air of asent
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what's most interesting to you and
 

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what's most interesting to you and
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you're coding it right like what do you
 

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you're coding it right like what do you
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like what's your Vibe kind of feeling
 

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like what's your Vibe kind of feeling
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about it what's what do you like it the
 

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about it what's what do you like it the
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most I think we're kind of at to borrow
 

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most I think we're kind of at to borrow
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a phrase from Jeff basos we have the
 

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a phrase from Jeff basos we have the
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Cambrian explosion of you know this this
 

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Cambrian explosion of you know this this
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sort of Technology a lot of them are
 

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sort of Technology a lot of them are
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being created every day so at some point
 

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being created every day so at some point
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a bunch of them will die and then uh
 

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a bunch of them will die and then uh
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hopefully the best one will survive
 

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hopefully the best one will survive
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we're kind of at that stage so it's very
 

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we're kind of at that stage so it's very
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exciting but it also means that there's
 

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exciting but it also means that there's
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no Clarity so I think the main thing I
 

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no Clarity so I think the main thing I
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would tell everybody watching this is to
 

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would tell everybody watching this is to
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you you know at at this point betting
 

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you you know at at this point betting
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the farm on any of this doesn't make any
 

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the farm on any of this doesn't make any
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sense however the thing to B the farm on
 

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sense however the thing to B the farm on
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I think is open source yes because then
 

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you can especially a agent framework
 

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you can especially a agent framework
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that is open governance where people can
 

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that is open governance where people can
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contribute it's all open source the
 

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contribute it's all open source the
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decision are made openly because then
 

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decision are made openly because then
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similar to what happened with llm you're
 

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similar to what happened with llm you're
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going to see that happen with agent
 

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going to see that happen with agent
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hopefully it's Bai but if it's not B
 

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hopefully it's Bai but if it's not B
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it's going to be hopefully an open
 

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it's going to be hopefully an open
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version of these Frameworks yeah and I
 

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version of these Frameworks yeah and I
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so that's what I would say is most
 

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so that's what I would say is most
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exciting today I personally enjoy the
 

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exciting today I personally enjoy the
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fact that you don't just do python you
 

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fact that you don't just do python you
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actually started in typescript yes right
 

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actually started in typescript yes right
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and like this runs in the browser this
 

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and like this runs in the browser this
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runs everywhere that connects to wasm
 

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runs everywhere that connects to wasm
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right so to me it's super interesting
 

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right so to me it's super interesting
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like how do you plan to mix these two
 

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like how do you plan to mix these two
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things we want to keep both M but we
 

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things we want to keep both M but we
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definitely uh want to hear from the
 

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definitely uh want to hear from the
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people this is the beauty of Open Source
 

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people this is the beauty of Open Source
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right people are going to use it tell us
 

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right people are going to use it tell us
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what you want and and it is an easy way
 

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what you want and and it is an easy way
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for you to tell us is you can go and
 

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for you to tell us is you can go and
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start a project and follow what's going
 

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start a project and follow what's going
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on and give us feedback because in many
 

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on and give us feedback because in many
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ways we're going to keep both but
 

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ways we're going to keep both but
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obviously if there's one that clearly
 

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obviously if there's one that clearly
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becomes more dominant let's say in a 6
 

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becomes more dominant let's say in a 6
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months to a year then we'll probably
 

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months to a year then we'll probably
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focus on that M uh but right now the
 

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focus on that M uh but right now the
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plan is to is to keep doing both but
 

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plan is to is to keep doing both but
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again it's open source you know tell us
 

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again it's open source you know tell us
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what you think you know right so of it
 

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what you think you know right so of it
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so we just talked about it we're going
 

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so we just talked about it we're going
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to plan and start AI agents yes a agent
 

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to plan and start AI agents yes a agent
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meet up yes yes yes yes yes yes good to
 

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meet up yes yes yes yes yes yes good to
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be a part of this we going to even
 

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be a part of this we going to even
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better partners and and we see each
 

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better partners and and we see each
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other at L foundation so like this a
 

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other at L foundation so like this a
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huge community so what do you want to
 

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huge community so what do you want to
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kind of share with people uh kind of to
 

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kind of share with people uh kind of to
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invite them to the to this medal I I
 

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invite them to the to this medal I I
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think for me Agent to to I Really this
 

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think for me Agent to to I Really this
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is maybe me going back 25 years ago and
 

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is maybe me going back 25 years ago and
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the vision for agents is is that the
 

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the vision for agents is is that the
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same way we collaborate as people M it's
 

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same way we collaborate as people M it's
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going to be the same way that you build
 

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going to be the same way that you build
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your solution your multi-agent Solutions
 

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your solution your multi-agent Solutions
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because the agents the independent
 

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because the agents the independent
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agents that build up your solution are
 

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agents that build up your solution are
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somewhat independent and the quot
 

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somewhat independent and the quot
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unquote think for themselves so what I'm
 

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unquote think for themselves so what I'm
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hoping is that we change the mindset of
 

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hoping is that we change the mindset of
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how we do stuff today which is that you
 

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how we do stuff today which is that you
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procedurally think you start from one
 

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procedurally think you start from one
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place and then you end another place and
 

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place and then you end another place and
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instead we'll have goals yes and we'll
 

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instead we'll have goals yes and we'll
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have kind of like a direction that you
 

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want to go and the idea is that you
 

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want to go and the idea is that you
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reach the direction but do you exactly
 

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reach the direction but do you exactly
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know exactly where you go it doesn't
 

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know exactly where you go it doesn't
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matter it's like uh you and I uh we're
 

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matter it's like uh you and I uh we're
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collaborating on this AI agent meet up
 

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collaborating on this AI agent meet up
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with Dave neelson and you know we just
 

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with Dave neelson and you know we just
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agreed on the idea but what happens next
 

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agreed on the idea but what happens next
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we don't necessarily decide the goal is
 

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we don't necessarily decide the goal is
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to make create this community correct
 

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to make create this community correct
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and I feel like that's the main thing
 

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and I feel like that's the main thing
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with a make it Thrive make it useful
 

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with a make it Thrive make it useful
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make it fun for people fun for ourselves
 

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make it fun for people fun for ourselves
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and then set some maybe some some some
 

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and then set some maybe some some some
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expected uh you know uh K kpi if you
 

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expected uh you know uh K kpi if you
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want or whatever you want to you know
 

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want or whatever you want to you know
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some metrics so that we can measure
 

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some metrics so that we can measure
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success but we don't have necessarily a
 

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success but we don't have necessarily a
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plan that says oh you're going to start
 

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plan that says oh you're going to start
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from a and follow B and C D it's more
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like you're going to reach this point
 

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like you're going to reach this point
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and how you get there it's fine and
 

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and how you get there it's fine and
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that's what I think multi-agent system
 

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that's what I think multi-agent system
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really helps you achieve because the
 

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really helps you achieve because the
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power in it is that you didn't have to
 

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power in it is that you didn't have to
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Define everything yes you just said this
 

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Define everything yes you just said this
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is where I want to go it's sort of like
 

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is where I want to go it's sort of like
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when you have a team yes you tell them
 

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when you have a team yes you tell them
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we need to achieve this you don't
 

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we need to achieve this you don't
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necessarily go and you're senior
 

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necessarily go and you're senior
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engineer it can figure out exactly
 

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engineer it can figure out exactly
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exactly exactly you know I was do this
 

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exactly exactly you know I was do this
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for several decades my aspirational half
 

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for several decades my aspirational half
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joking goal for my community try to
 

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joking goal for my community try to
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guess what it is for the community yeah
 

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guess what it is for the community yeah
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like what is my kpi for all of my events
 

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like what is my kpi for all of my events
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well it's it's happiness the people come
 

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well it's it's happiness the people come
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and they happy and they enjoy their time
 

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and they happy and they enjoy their time
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exactly but occasionally people get
 

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exactly but occasionally people get
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married and have babies so how many
 

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married and have babies so how many
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babies we born that's as a longest
 

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babies we born that's as a longest
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running you know long you have the
 

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running you know long you have the
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number of that I don't exactly but it's
 

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number of that I don't exactly but it's
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more than zero so I think there's
 

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more than zero so I think there's
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another metric that you were telling me
 

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another metric that you were telling me
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about is how many people came here and
 

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about is how many people came here and
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give a talk yes and then that talk
 

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give a talk yes and then that talk
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became a startup and start up got bought
 

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became a startup and start up got bought
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exactly I have sever I think you have
 

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exactly I have sever I think you have
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one or two I have several several
 

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one or two I have several several
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already okay wow so and I I'll give you
 

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already okay wow so and I I'll give you
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guys a way to do this AI by the bay is
 

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guys a way to do this AI by the bay is
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in November the CP is open ai. by bay.
 

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in November the CP is open ai. by bay.
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you all submit a talk and between now
 

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you all submit a talk and between now
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and then see what happens right miracles
 

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and then see what happens right miracles
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do happen uh and uh well we're looking
 

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do happen uh and uh well we're looking
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forward to your talk Max look look
 

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forward to your talk Max look look
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forward to run the M up and you know
 

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forward to run the M up and you know
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hopefully we'll have a good Community
 

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hopefully we'll have a good Community
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growing yeah thank you for having me
 

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growing yeah thank you for having me
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