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hi Mariana thanks for Mason Tolkien like
 

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hi Mariana thanks for Mason Tolkien like
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few questions and first question what do
 

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few questions and first question what do
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you think like your role in blockchain
 

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you think like your role in blockchain
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movement in general and one kind of like
 

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movement in general and one kind of like
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career paths was bring you like to the
 

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career paths was bring you like to the
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to the current positions that you work
 

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to the current positions that you work
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in in blockchain in enterprise well I
 

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in in blockchain in enterprise well I
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think the role of ING and therefore yeah
 

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think the role of ING and therefore yeah
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my role as well is indeed to enable our
 

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my role as well is indeed to enable our
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customers to transition to this
 

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customers to transition to this
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distributed economy together so we take
 

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distributed economy together so we take
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it really seriously and we have our own
 

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it really seriously and we have our own
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innovation actually culture and
 

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innovation actually culture and
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innovation methodology that we follow
 

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innovation methodology that we follow
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together with our clients and internally
 

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together with our clients and internally
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and what it says is pretty much you know
 

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and what it says is pretty much you know
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you have to always ask right don't
 

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you have to always ask right don't
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assume anything so ask your client what
 

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assume anything so ask your client what
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are their problems as your client what
 

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are their problems as your client what
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are their concerns you know and together
 

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are their concerns you know and together
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you can come up with actually what you
 

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you can come up with actually what you
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may think is a solution and only when
 

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may think is a solution and only when
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you are in the solution part you know
 

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you are in the solution part you know
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the solution feat is when you think
 

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the solution feat is when you think
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which kind of technology can enable you
 

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which kind of technology can enable you
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to do that change it can be blockchain
 

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to do that change it can be blockchain
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but it can be also for example
 

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but it can be also for example
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artificial intelligence advanced
 

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analytics robotics etc right and we want
 

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analytics robotics etc right and we want
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to make sure that it's not always only
 

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to make sure that it's not always only
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the creation of something or using
 

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the creation of something or using
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blockchain because of the sake of it but
 

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blockchain because of the sake of it but
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it's because it really delivers value on
 

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it's because it really delivers value on
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that a specific use case exactly so yeah
 

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that a specific use case exactly so yeah
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I think with that that's pretty much
 

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I think with that that's pretty much
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yeah the the type of help and the type
 

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yeah the the type of help and the type
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of influence that we have as ing towards
 

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of influence that we have as ing towards
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our customers okay thanks and what do
 

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our customers okay thanks and what do
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you think like ZK business drivers that
 

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you think like ZK business drivers that
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drive blockchain economy now and what's
 

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drive blockchain economy now and what's
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the main like business problems which
 

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blockchain can like solve now for them
 

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blockchain can like solve now for them
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for the customers I think for us if you
 

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for the customers I think for us if you
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really think of the different value
 

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really think of the different value
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chains it can solve a lot of problems
 

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chains it can solve a lot of problems
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right when we think about having
 

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right when we think about having
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consensus or the agreement of something
 

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happening on the ledger without a third
 

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party that's really powerful because you
 

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party that's really powerful because you
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can actually use that trustless system
 

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can actually use that trustless system
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right to rely upon the system doing the
 

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right thing for you
 

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right thing for you
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and when you think about that in the
 

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and when you think about that in the
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payments ecosystem that's really good
 

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payments ecosystem that's really good
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you know because normally you would have
 

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you know because normally you would have
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clearing houses doing that a specific
 

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clearing houses doing that a specific
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type of work when you're thinking about
 

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type of work when you're thinking about
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loans you know that's really good
 

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loans you know that's really good
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because and you could apply for example
 

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because and you could apply for example
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the proper interest on a specific loan
 

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the proper interest on a specific loan
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without having a third party dictating
 

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without having a third party dictating
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you know whether that was fine or not or
 

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you know whether that was fine or not or
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executing it then when you think about
 

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executing it then when you think about
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the financial market structure sorry the
 

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the financial market structure sorry the
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financial market infrastructure as well
 

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financial market infrastructure as well
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is really powerful because then you kind
 

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is really powerful because then you kind
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of streamline processes such as post
 

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of streamline processes such as post
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rate you can improve for example the
 

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rate you can improve for example the
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bank Treasury you know a lot of times
 

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bank Treasury you know a lot of times
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that that is really fragmented and you
 

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that that is really fragmented and you
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have to really look at the liquidity
 

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have to really look at the liquidity
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that you have and they and the
 

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that you have and they and the
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collateral that you need in specific
 

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collateral that you need in specific
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parts of the world in order to make sure
 

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parts of the world in order to make sure
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that you have the right yeah
 

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that you have the right yeah
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balance right on the liquid and capital
 

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balance right on the liquid and capital
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needed and then blockchain could also
 

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needed and then blockchain could also
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help you to reach that balance in with
 

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help you to reach that balance in with
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different solutions so we do believe
 

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different solutions so we do believe
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that a foreign financial industry at
 

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that a foreign financial industry at
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least it has shown a quite a lot of
 

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least it has shown a quite a lot of
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value and a lot of potential as well and
 

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value and a lot of potential as well and
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now we are in the way of you know making
 

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now we are in the way of you know making
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sure that whatever we deploy is
 

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sure that whatever we deploy is
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according to regulation and it's
 

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according to regulation and it's
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undergoing as well the internal
 

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undergoing as well the internal
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approvals that we need as regulated
 

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approvals that we need as regulated
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financial institution okay thanks and
 

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financial institution okay thanks and
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you are like talking now a lot of with
 

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you are like talking now a lot of with
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the customers we wish some with internal
 

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the customers we wish some with internal
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customers and what do you think like the
 

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customers and what do you think like the
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main qualities is that they need from
 

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main qualities is that they need from
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blockchain solution and how you can
 

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blockchain solution and how you can
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right what they need is for ing to
 

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provide services in a better way in a
 

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faster way in a more efficient way and
 

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faster way in a more efficient way and
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then how we do it that shouldn't matter
 

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then how we do it that shouldn't matter
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by themselves but it is as for example
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if you send a payment you don't know
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exactly exactly it's not about the
 

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exactly exactly it's not about the
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technology is about the benefits that
 

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technology is about the benefits that
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we're gonna deliver in our services to
 

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our clients and then how we make it
 

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our clients and then how we make it
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happen but that should be a left for us
 

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happen but that should be a left for us
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too to see what would be fit best in
 

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too to see what would be fit best in
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see I see and what do you think like the
 

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see I see and what do you think like the
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most the most technical challenge in
 

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most the most technical challenge in
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like blockchains that you face it in
 

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like blockchains that you face it in
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your project and your proof of concept I
 

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your project and your proof of concept I
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think the technical challenges depends
 

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on the type of this relay that you are
 

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on the type of this relay that you are
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using as I mentioned well we have
 

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using as I mentioned well we have
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obviously the scalability in some of
 

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obviously the scalability in some of
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them you have to be really careful and
 

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them you have to be really careful and
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choosing the concepts of algorithm for
 

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choosing the concepts of algorithm for
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the distributed ledger some of these
 

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the distributed ledger some of these
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really jurors have for example probable
 

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really jurors have for example probable
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consensus which make increase the
 

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consensus which make increase the
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transaction throughput that you may have
 

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transaction throughput that you may have
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but at the exchange of what right so you
 

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but at the exchange of what right so you
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have to have a harder evaluation on that
 

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the interoperability is a really good
 

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the interoperability is a really good
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one as well how to make sure that you
 

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one as well how to make sure that you
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don't lose the provenance if you are
 

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don't lose the provenance if you are
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having an exchange of data in between
 

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having an exchange of data in between
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different Ledger's or in between
 

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different Ledger's or in between
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different assets for example as well I
 

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different assets for example as well I
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think the progress and confidentiality
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where is where we actually as ing have
 

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the most yea input in and therefore they
 

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the most yea input in and therefore they
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the open sourcing of our solution thus
 

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the open sourcing of our solution thus
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your knowledge range Brooks right we're
 

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your knowledge range Brooks right we're
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still working on that were improving it
 

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still working on that were improving it
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we got four examples on feedback from
 

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italic Goethe in himself
 

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italic Goethe in himself
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we got something back as well from MIT
 

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and we included that feedback in a new
 

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version which were currently a peer
 

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version which were currently a peer
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reviewing so we hope that we're going to
 

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reviewing so we hope that we're going to
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release a better version of those really
 

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release a better version of those really
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strange proofs to the open source
 

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strange proofs to the open source
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community soon okay thanks and what do
 

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community soon okay thanks and what do
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you think like the main skill sets it
 

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you think like the main skill sets it
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needed from the engineers from support
 

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needed from the engineers from support
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guys from business analysts who work
 

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with them black blockchain solutions I
 

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think for us is two main skills right so
 

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think for us is two main skills right so
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you need to know how to code obviously
 

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you need to know how to code obviously
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in different languages like Cortland
 

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in different languages like Cortland
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solidity etc but besides the coding or
 

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solidity etc but besides the coding or
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they or the programming of the smart
 

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requirements that we have to comply with
 

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requirements that we have to comply with
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and be able to apply this technology
 

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and be able to apply this technology
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into those specific
 

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you chains if they don't have that
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translation capacity if they don't have
 

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translation capacity if they don't have
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the way you know of being able to model
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that a specific asset without its
 

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that a specific asset without its
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requirements in a specific blockchain
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then you know they would they wouldn't
 

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then you know they would they wouldn't
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be doing their job properly right so I
 

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be doing their job properly right so I
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the most important ones yeah okay and
 

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the most important ones yeah okay and
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like is you see now a lot of blockchain
 

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like is you see now a lot of blockchain
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events meetups and so on what do you
 

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events meetups and so on what do you
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think like is a community we can do for
 

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think like is a community we can do for
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blockchain specifically in the
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enterprise like do not start this
 

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enterprise like do not start this
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blockchain winter you know we need to
 

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blockchain winter you know we need to
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keep working together I'm really happy
 

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keep working together I'm really happy
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about the collaboration it is amazing
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for example when you see different
 

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sector or not talking to each other and
 

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sector or not talking to each other and
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learning from each other that's super
 

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learning from each other that's super
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important you know for example the
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requirements that a hill sir Hill
 

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requirements that a hill sir Hill
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cursory may have are not the same as
 

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financial industry but in a way they
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might underlie in you know in the basis
 

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might underlie in you know in the basis
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they might be the same and then how
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looking at different perspectives how
 

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looking at different perspectives how
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can we make actually that shift together
 

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can we make actually that shift together
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beyond financial industry goes beyond a
 

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beyond financial industry goes beyond a
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a lot of sectors and then that
 

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a lot of sectors and then that
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collaboration and that network effects
 

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collaboration and that network effects
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and that understanding and together
 

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and that understanding and together
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evolving this technology is what is the
 

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evolving this technology is what is the
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most important and what we should look
 

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most important and what we should look
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into as community okay thanks and my
 

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into as community okay thanks and my
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last question so what do you think about
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the recent conference so far well I was
 

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the recent conference so far well I was
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here early and I thought they talked
 

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here early and I thought they talked
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from IBM was really interesting so I'm
 

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from IBM was really interesting so I'm
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looking forward to the rest of the of
 

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looking forward to the rest of the of
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the agenda ok thank you very much for
 

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the agenda ok thank you very much for
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your talking for his interview have a
 

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your talking for his interview have a
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