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I'm Devin losses a vice president of
 

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I'm Devin losses a vice president of
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engineering at vellum L so we deal with
 

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engineering at vellum L so we deal with
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emails on a daily basis and our goal is
 

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emails on a daily basis and our goal is
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to authenticate emails and authenticate
 

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to authenticate emails and authenticate
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let me start back oh okay so things we
 

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let me start back oh okay so things we
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worry about at bella mel are really
 

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worry about at bella mel are really
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authenticating the world's emails we
 

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authenticating the world's emails we
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want to make sure that an email that you
 

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want to make sure that an email that you
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receive is actually a genuine email from
 

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receive is actually a genuine email from
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the person who sent it it's not a fish
 

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the person who sent it it's not a fish
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it's not a malicious email and so that's
 

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it's not a malicious email and so that's
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really our mission and so we have to
 

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really our mission and so we have to
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think about things about like how do we
 

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think about things about like how do we
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do that while making sure that we're not
 

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do that while making sure that we're not
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compromising a person's privacy or
 

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compromising a person's privacy or
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compromising information about a
 

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compromising information about a
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business or something like that and so
 

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business or something like that and so
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those are things that we think about a
 

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those are things that we think about a
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lot and that was kind of the impetus for
 

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lot and that was kind of the impetus for
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so yeah we we authenticated about three
 

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so yeah we we authenticated about three
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billion messages to date over the last
 

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billion messages to date over the last
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three years we've been around for about
 

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three years we've been around for about
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three years and you know as far as scale
 

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three years and you know as far as scale
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goes we have to make sure that when a
 

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goes we have to make sure that when a
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client has received an email message
 

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client has received an email message
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that that client could call out to us to
 

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that that client could call out to us to
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authenticate an email message to
 

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authenticate an email message to
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determine whether it's legitimate or not
 

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determine whether it's legitimate or not
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and so we have to be extremely extremely
 

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and so we have to be extremely extremely
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responsive we have to be extremely
 

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responsive we have to be extremely
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responsive to the needs of those clients
 

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responsive to the needs of those clients
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and so our problems of scale are ones of
 

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and so our problems of scale are ones of
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you know just returning information and
 

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you know just returning information and
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sub-second transactions and also
 

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sub-second transactions and also
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managing load across a back up on that
 

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managing load across a back up on that
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our so let me start all over again
 

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our so let me start all over again
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so our problems with scale are really
 

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so our problems with scale are really
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being able to respond quickly to
 

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being able to respond quickly to
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inquiries from clients about is this
 

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inquiries from clients about is this
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message illegitimate in our life and so
 

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message illegitimate in our life and so
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I mentioned earlier that we do about 3
 

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I mentioned earlier that we do about 3
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billion emails over the lifetime of the
 

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billion emails over the lifetime of the
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product and you can imagine that we need
 

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product and you can imagine that we need
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sub-second response times because if
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we're not responding there's a potential
 

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we're not responding there's a potential
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that a fish or something else is getting
 

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that a fish or something else is getting
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through to a customer so our problems of
 

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through to a customer so our problems of
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scale are really ones of scaling out of
 

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scale are really ones of scaling out of
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systems in a distributed manner so that
 

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systems in a distributed manner so that
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future are you know a proliferation of
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message types that are being sent you
 

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message types that are being sent you
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know may email that's one thing that we
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deal with right now but we have SMS
 

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deal with right now but we have SMS
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messages the Internet of Things is out
 

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messages the Internet of Things is out
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there and there's an authentication
 

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there and there's an authentication
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mechanism around that you know I think
 

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mechanism around that you know I think
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you know we see the world getting more
 

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you know we see the world getting more
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more connected and we see the
 

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more connected and we see the
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opportunity for people to act
 

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maliciously online or impersonate people
 

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really looking beyond you know email as
 

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really looking beyond you know email as
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platforms and and seeing how we can make
 

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so I'll be very honest with you at Val
 

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so I'll be very honest with you at Val
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programming right now the application is
 

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a ruby stack and then we also use go for
 

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a ruby stack and then we also use go for
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that we have here I like the separate
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track they they all overlap to some
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degree but you get a diversity of people
 

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degree but you get a diversity of people
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here you don't just have if I wanted to
 

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here you don't just have if I wanted to
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ask all our functional programming or
 

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ask all our functional programming or
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Haskell I can go one place but if I want
 

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Haskell I can go one place but if I want
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to get a broader view of how data is
 

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to get a broader view of how data is
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being used or how it's being consumed
 

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being used or how it's being consumed
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there's another opportunity for me to
 

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there's another opportunity for me to
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learn those things here in fact it's
 

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learn those things here in fact it's
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it's great but one of the downsides is I
 

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it's great but one of the downsides is I
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can't see all the talk so I thank
 

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can't see all the talk so I thank
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goodness that are on the line at the end
 

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goodness that are on the line at the end
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of the conference so that I can see them
 

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of the conference so that I can see them
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then
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