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Uh my name is Victor Gamov and I'm a
 

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Uh my name is Victor Gamov and I'm a
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principal developer advocate at company
 

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principal developer advocate at company
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called Confluent who are original
 

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called Confluent who are original
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creators of Apache Kafka. My
 

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creators of Apache Kafka. My
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professional highlight involved in AI
 

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professional highlight involved in AI
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was all things around tooling and
 

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was all things around tooling and
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working with external systems. Things
 

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working with external systems. Things
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like MCP, agent to agent protocol. All
 

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like MCP, agent to agent protocol. All
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things that allows to build systems,
 

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things that allows to build systems,
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build agentic systems and collaborate
 

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build agentic systems and collaborate
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efficiently. My definition of reliable
 

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efficiently. My definition of reliable
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AI means that something that I can
 

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AI means that something that I can
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successfully deploy in production. I
 

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successfully deploy in production. I
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will be able to monitor, see the
 

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will be able to monitor, see the
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consumption of the tokens and see how my
 

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consumption of the tokens and see how my
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customers are using this system in real
 

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customers are using this system in real
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time and how Agentic systems would
 

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time and how Agentic systems would
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communicate to each other without
 

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communicate to each other without
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failures or without cascading failures
 

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failures or without cascading failures
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that uh basically same patterns that we
 

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that uh basically same patterns that we
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learn over the years to implement
 

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learn over the years to implement
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microservices will be applicable for
 

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microservices will be applicable for
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agentic applications as well. Let's
 

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agentic applications as well. Let's
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think about this. What is it? So in in
 

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think about this. What is it? So in in
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order to community to embrace reliable
 

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order to community to embrace reliable
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API it's just more share sharing of the
 

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API it's just more share sharing of the
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knowledge and sharing best practices um
 

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knowledge and sharing best practices um
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as uh we spoke in the past in the DevOps
 

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as uh we spoke in the past in the DevOps
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days DevOps is not technology it is
 

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days DevOps is not technology it is
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culture same thing with the reliable
 

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culture same thing with the reliable
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agentic AI uh it is culture how the
 

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agentic AI uh it is culture how the
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people would look into what kind of
 

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people would look into what kind of
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things they building is um and how they
 

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things they building is um and how they
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deploy this and everything with AI is
 

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deploy this and everything with AI is
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garbage in garbage out If you are not uh
 

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garbage in garbage out If you are not uh
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thinking clearly about intent and what
 

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thinking clearly about intent and what
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this AI system needs to be doing uh and
 

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this AI system needs to be doing uh and
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clearly describe what it does, how it
 

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needs to behave in certain conditions,
 

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needs to behave in certain conditions,
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you will not be able to get reliable
 

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you will not be able to get reliable
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output and get some predictability in
 

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output and get some predictability in
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those systems. So the way how AI stack
 

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those systems. So the way how AI stack
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would look in five years would be really
 

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a polyglot. So there would be clearly
 

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a polyglot. So there would be clearly
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some of the frameworks that will cover
 

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some of the frameworks that will cover
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um first of all interactions with
 

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um first of all interactions with
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different models and uh there's going to
 

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different models and uh there's going to
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be like unified approach for developers
 

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be like unified approach for developers
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to interact with this LLMs. Uh I don't
 

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to interact with this LLMs. Uh I don't
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think there would be a clear winner in
 

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think there would be a clear winner in
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terms of like a language or particular
 

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terms of like a language or particular
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platform. I think the landscape would
 

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platform. I think the landscape would
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look pretty much the same as it does in
 

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look pretty much the same as it does in
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the modern enterprise. Java still will
 

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the modern enterprise. Java still will
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be benefit still will be uh in a in a
 

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be benefit still will be uh in a in a
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big chunk of applications would be
 

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big chunk of applications would be
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deployed in production we're using Java
 

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deployed in production we're using Java
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a lot of things will be used Python for
 

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a lot of things will be used Python for
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prototyping and quick um turnaround of
 

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prototyping and quick um turnaround of
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some ideas so the the big language
 

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some ideas so the the big language
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models are here to stay. So we will just
 

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models are here to stay. So we will just
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see more in developer experience how
 

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people will able to build applications
 

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people will able to build applications
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