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Yeah, I'm Arun Joseph. Uh I'm the
 

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Yeah, I'm Arun Joseph. Uh I'm the
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co-founder of Mosaic Agentic Systems.
 

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co-founder of Mosaic Agentic Systems.
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Role of course uh is building in a
 

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Role of course uh is building in a
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startup right along with my co-founders
 

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startup right along with my co-founders
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Jasper and Amad. Yeah, that's what my
 

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Jasper and Amad. Yeah, that's what my
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and my startup is all about large scale
 

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and my startup is all about large scale
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decisioning engines uh for operational
 

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decisioning engines uh for operational
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intelligence as we call it. Yeah, that's
 

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intelligence as we call it. Yeah, that's
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pretty much what we do. Previously the
 

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pretty much what we do. Previously the
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head of AI engineering for Dodge Telecom
 

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head of AI engineering for Dodge Telecom
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in Europe.
 

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in Europe.
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I would I would say that the
 

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I would I would say that the
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accomplishment was we developed a few
 

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accomplishment was we developed a few
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things which might have been something
 

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things which might have been something
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like a small mini Xerox spark moment. We
 

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like a small mini Xerox spark moment. We
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built potentially one of the first
 

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built potentially one of the first
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agentic platforms and put it live early
 

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agentic platforms and put it live early
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late 2023
 

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late 2023
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and uh it it powers it used to power
 

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and uh it it powers it used to power
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multiple countries in Europe open source
 

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multiple countries in Europe open source
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mood and Eclipse Foundation early
 

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mood and Eclipse Foundation early
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or mid 2024 we gave a talk about it in
 

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or mid 2024 we gave a talk about it in
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our production agents when most of the
 

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our production agents when most of the
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enterprise a AI was failing. So we gave
 

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enterprise a AI was failing. So we gave
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a talk and it was only a week later
 

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a talk and it was only a week later
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OpenAI even released swamp. So we
 

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OpenAI even released swamp. So we
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started building our own protocols. So
 

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started building our own protocols. So
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we had a small great team um who who
 

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we had a small great team um who who
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aspired to build the foundations of what
 

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aspired to build the foundations of what
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we call as a H&amp;D computing and we put it
 

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we call as a H&amp;D computing and we put it
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in production and there were so many
 

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in production and there were so many
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learnings. So both the business outcomes
 

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learnings. So both the business outcomes
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as well as having had the privilege of
 

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as well as having had the privilege of
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leading such an elite team reliable AI.
 

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leading such an elite team reliable AI.
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Yeah, this is excellent. So I'm one of
 

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Yeah, this is excellent. So I'm one of
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the original contributors to the small
 

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the original contributors to the small
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group that u wrote reliable AI. Reliable
 

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group that u wrote reliable AI. Reliable
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AI is something I would define as um if
 

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AI is something I would define as um if
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the outputs from an AI system or any
 

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the outputs from an AI system or any
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system, right? U if they are verifiable
 

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system, right? U if they are verifiable
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and reproducible and consistent under
 

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and reproducible and consistent under
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real operational constraints. I would I
 

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real operational constraints. I would I
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would say that's the definition.
 

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would say that's the definition.
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So this is interesting. So of late I
 

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So this is interesting. So of late I
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have started to notice a shift in also
 

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have started to notice a shift in also
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treating this as a true engineering
 

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treating this as a true engineering
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discipline.
 

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discipline.
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and not only
 

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and not only
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uh model research. So reliability
 

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uh model research. So reliability
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engineering loves constraints. So
 

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engineering loves constraints. So
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engineering shines in constraints,
 

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engineering shines in constraints,
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right? So AI the pure model,
 

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right? So AI the pure model,
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how do you constrain it to produce
 

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how do you constrain it to produce
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uh consistent results is an engineering
 

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uh consistent results is an engineering
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discipline which has started to pick up
 

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discipline which has started to pick up
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and more effort should also start to go
 

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and more effort should also start to go
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in there. uh and more such use cases
 

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in there. uh and more such use cases
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will allow push the boundaries of
 

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will allow push the boundaries of
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computing as we know it and right now a
 

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computing as we know it and right now a
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lot of this u is definitely there on the
 

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lot of this u is definitely there on the
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model side but I'm absolutely imagining
 

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model side but I'm absolutely imagining
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new operating systems new ways to have
 

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new operating systems new ways to have
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makes deterministic and nondeterministic
 

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makes deterministic and nondeterministic
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computing as a foundational paradigm
 

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computing as a foundational paradigm
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there are new line and straw walls to
 

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emerge I'm looking for where they are
 

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emerge I'm looking for where they are
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going to come from that's all I would
 

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going to come from that's all I would
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say yeah the next five years,
 

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say yeah the next five years,
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five years is uh light here in in the AI
 

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five years is uh light here in in the AI
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space. Um I would say that there is a
 

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space. Um I would say that there is a
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hype in the AI world. We started to see
 

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hype in the AI world. We started to see
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at least AI systems as computational
 

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at least AI systems as computational
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primitives which is different from
 

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primitives which is different from
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expecting unicorns and rainbows, right?
 

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expecting unicorns and rainbows, right?
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So the next five years I would imagine
 

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at least personal computing would have
 

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at least personal computing would have
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definitely
 

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definitely
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uh definitely changed into a mix of
 

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uh definitely changed into a mix of
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traditional deterministic and uh and
 

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traditional deterministic and uh and
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agentic computing as I would call it in
 

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agentic computing as I would call it in
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every personal device I would imagine
 

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every personal device I would imagine
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models also to be running such that the
 

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models also to be running such that the
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ease with which you are interacting with
 

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the computer to do things for you is
 

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the computer to do things for you is
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radically going to change. You can call
 

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radically going to change. You can call
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it AI, you can call it whatever, but
 

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it AI, you can call it whatever, but
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this is the fundamental construct. Other
 

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this is the fundamental construct. Other
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than that, I would imagine
 

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than that, I would imagine
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the large scale enterprises to
 

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the large scale enterprises to
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completely shift in how they build their
 

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completely shift in how they build their
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IT information systems are very prone to
 

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IT information systems are very prone to
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I would imagine companies to be run
 

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purely on agentic systems at least some
 

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purely on agentic systems at least some
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divisions which is going to produce
 

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divisions which is going to produce
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massive significant results. This is
 

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massive significant results. This is
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essentially why I quit my job to build
 

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essentially why I quit my job to build
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such systems
 

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thinking that this is a future that it
 

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thinking that this is a future that it
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intelligence companies or divisions
 

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intelligence companies or divisions
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which can self-optimize on information
 

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systems right and not AGI I would rather
 

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say how do you selfoptimize a system to
 

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say how do you selfoptimize a system to
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increase the revenue or reduce cost
 

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increase the revenue or reduce cost
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leakage because information system can
 

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leakage because information system can
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