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Hi, I'm Julian. Uh, I work at Data Dog
 

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Hi, I'm Julian. Uh, I work at Data Dog
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and I'm a principal engineer there. Oh,
 

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and I'm a principal engineer there. Oh,
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so recently I've been playing with uh
 

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so recently I've been playing with uh
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Cloud Code to build a little uh
 

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Cloud Code to build a little uh
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visualizers for park metadata. Um, and
 

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visualizers for park metadata. Um, and
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I'm more of a back-end engineer, so I
 

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I'm more of a back-end engineer, so I
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know very little about front end stuff.
 

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know very little about front end stuff.
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And I was able to make this little web
 

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And I was able to make this little web
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app with it. Was pretty proud of myself
 

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app with it. Was pretty proud of myself
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of uh building new things out of my
 

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of uh building new things out of my
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comfort zone using AI. Oh, that's a
 

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comfort zone using AI. Oh, that's a
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that's a vast question. Um, I think
 

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that's a vast question. Um, I think
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right now we don't really have fully
 

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right now we don't really have fully
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reliable AI, right? We need to triple
 

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reliable AI, right? We need to triple
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check everything. Um although we'll need
 

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check everything. Um although we'll need
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to have a better definition of what that
 

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to have a better definition of what that
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means in the future, right? Like that
 

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means in the future, right? Like that
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the result can be trusted uh that they
 

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the result can be trusted uh that they
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accomplish what we were expecting them
 

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accomplish what we were expecting them
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to do. So there'd be a lot of validation
 

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to do. So there'd be a lot of validation
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in you know if they're using tools or
 

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in you know if they're using tools or
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building things and so on right like
 

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building things and so on right like
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it's actually if the goal is the AI to
 

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it's actually if the goal is the AI to
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produce a lot more like code say than we
 

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produce a lot more like code say than we
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can build uh then it's going to be
 

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can build uh then it's going to be
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tricky to make sure it's not introducing
 

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tricky to make sure it's not introducing
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uh flaws or security uh vulnerabilities
 

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uh flaws or security uh vulnerabilities
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and things like that. Well, we need to
 

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and things like that. Well, we need to
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have uh good uh validation frameworks
 

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have uh good uh validation frameworks
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like verifications. How do we make sure
 

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like verifications. How do we make sure
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the solutions
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what's happening is according to what we
 

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what's happening is according to what we
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were expecting, right? If we're going to
 

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were expecting, right? If we're going to
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automate a bunch of things with AI. Um
 

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automate a bunch of things with AI. Um
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we'll need to have a much better
 

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we'll need to have a much better
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validation framework.
 

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validation framework.
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I think right now, you know, if you use
 

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I think right now, you know, if you use
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an LLM to do things, it it's pretty
 

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an LLM to do things, it it's pretty
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open-ended tool. So, it can do a lot of
 

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open-ended tool. So, it can do a lot of
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things you were not expecting it to do,
 

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things you were not expecting it to do,
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including the wrong thing. It's been
 

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including the wrong thing. It's been
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changing so fast in the next five years.
 

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changing so fast in the next five years.
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I don't know. I think the next six
 

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I don't know. I think the next six
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months is tr difficult to guess. Um, I
 

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months is tr difficult to guess. Um, I
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don't know. But I think it's all
 

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don't know. But I think it's all
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accelerating, right? So I guess the one
 

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accelerating, right? So I guess the one
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of the dimension is all the problems for
 

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of the dimension is all the problems for
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which it's easy to verify the solution
 

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which it's easy to verify the solution
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we'd be solved very quickly because then
 

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we'd be solved very quickly because then
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that's where you know AI can try a lot
 

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that's where you know AI can try a lot
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of things quickly and as long as we can
 

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of things quickly and as long as we can
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verify that it gives correct answers
 

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verify that it gives correct answers
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um we'll be able to use that very
 

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um we'll be able to use that very
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efficiently. for things that are harder
 

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efficiently. for things that are harder
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to evaluate whether they're correct,
 

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to evaluate whether they're correct,
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it's going to be more difficult or
 

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it's going to be more difficult or
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potentially uh unsafe, right? Um so we
 

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potentially uh unsafe, right? Um so we
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see what happen. I don't know what this
 

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see what happen. I don't know what this
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