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Adam de Delva, DTR — Interview with Alexy

Adam de Delva ↗With Alexy KhrabrovAug 26, 20266:59

Alexy Khrabrov talks with Adam de Delva of DTR (Developer Technology Research) in New York after the Apache Spark NYC meetup at Datadog. They discuss growing a network of open-source communities from 30,000 to over three million members, with new communities in Ghana and Latin America; open-source sustainability and getting companies to reinvest in the commons; digital public infrastructure and sovereign AI, from mapping workloads onto neoclouds to scheduling containers securely in trustless environments with the Linux Foundation Decentralized Trust and Hyperledger communities; and the UOR (Universal Object Reference) Foundation, where specs, protocols, and standards for sovereign AI infrastructure are built.

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Hello everybody. I'm Alexi Krov, Hello everybody. I'm Alexi Krov, community organizer at large of Malcat community organizer at large of Malcat Assistance at Lakes and Harris with Adam Assistance at Lakes and Harris with Adam DMA. DMA. Hello, Adam Delva here. Nice to see you. Hello, Adam Delva here. Nice to see you. Adam is a pillar of community in New Adam is a pillar of community in New York and around the world and I know him York and around the world and I know him for many years. We're like brothers in for many years. We're like brothers in the community. We are spending the cost the community. We are spending the cost spinning the world. So tell us a little spinning the world. So tell us a little bit about what you do and uh what DTR is bit about what you do and uh what DTR is and how do you bring the goodness of and how do you bring the goodness of open source community to different open source community to different disciplines, different areas, different disciplines, different areas, different places in the world. places in the world. Yeah. So Alexi, I've been working with Yeah. So Alexi, I've been working with Alexi in the community now for just Alexi in the community now for just about two and a half years. Uh former about two and a half years. Uh former Microsoft innovation specialist and Microsoft innovation specialist and we've built an ecosystem of really the we've built an ecosystem of really the pillars of the community from 30,000 pillars of the community from 30,000 members macro to now 3.1 million members macro to now 3.1 million members. And the people that lead the members. And the people that lead the communities of these communities are communities of these communities are working with DTR in one way, shape or working with DTR in one way, shape or form. We have founders of the form. We have founders of the communities. We have uh contributors of communities. We have uh contributors of open source major open source projects open source major open source projects like Docker uh low-level Linux like Docker uh low-level Linux subsystems etc etc. All of them are subsystems etc etc. All of them are hanging out with our community. And so hanging out with our community. And so we have even have operations in uh we have even have operations in uh Africa and Ghana uh opening up Africa and Ghana uh opening up communities in Ghana. Um very excited communities in Ghana. Um very excited about emerging markets. So working with about emerging markets. So working with Colombia, Latin America, uh all over the Colombia, Latin America, uh all over the world, building community and figuring world, building community and figuring out what people need, figuring out what out what people need, figuring out what the community needs from an open source the community needs from an open source sustainability perspective. How do we sustainability perspective. How do we make sure open source stays sustainable? make sure open source stays sustainable? How do we make sure that companies are How do we make sure that companies are able to reinvest back into the commons? able to reinvest back into the commons? As we know, the industry sits on $9 As we know, the industry sits on $9 trillion of open source value, and it's trillion of open source value, and it's really important to get back to the really important to get back to the community some of that innovation community some of that innovation capital um that has been basically capital um that has been basically building our current economy, right? So, building our current economy, right? So, we're working on building the pipes to we're working on building the pipes to make that real, make that real, right? So, what I like about Adam DTR, right? So, what I like about Adam DTR, right? Like we we hear uh doomers, AI right? Like we we hear uh doomers, AI doomers. AI is going to concentrate the doomers. AI is going to concentrate the wealth in the hands of a few rich. AI is wealth in the hands of a few rich. AI is going to rebalance the world. And so, going to rebalance the world. And so, what Adam is doing, I think, is the what Adam is doing, I think, is the opposite is basically giving the power opposite is basically giving the power back to the people, advising governments back to the people, advising governments in the third world countries how to in the third world countries how to bring cheap and effective compute to bring cheap and effective compute to their people, right? And how to mobilize their people, right? And how to mobilize community resources. you have to bring community resources. you have to bring this to bear on the different domains this to bear on the different domains and I remember like you basically touch and I remember like you basically touch every kind of key point from Kubernetes every kind of key point from Kubernetes to dev sec ops right to kind of using to dev sec ops right to kind of using crypto fabric for decentralization crypto fabric for decentralization for for good right like not kind of for for good right like not kind of crypto speculation but to actually crypto speculation but to actually enable truly decentralized access enable truly decentralized access to resources and you also uh work with to resources and you also uh work with energy and data centers correct right energy and data centers correct right which is now again top of mind. So how which is now again top of mind. So how do you think about like bringing these do you think about like bringing these resources to uh the people of the world resources to uh the people of the world in a fair and equitable way? in a fair and equitable way? Without a doubt. So this is really top Without a doubt. So this is really top of mind especially when we look at of mind especially when we look at organizations like the United Nations organizations like the United Nations that are really keen on understanding that are really keen on understanding infrastructure for sovereign AI and they infrastructure for sovereign AI and they call it um uh they call it DPI digital call it um uh they call it DPI digital public infrastructure and sustaining the public infrastructure and sustaining the the commons from the foundations that the commons from the foundations that power the applications that run on our power the applications that run on our system. It's really really important for system. It's really really important for for DTR developer technology research. for DTR developer technology research. Um we have you know a really clear Um we have you know a really clear mandate right now for NeoClouds that may mandate right now for NeoClouds that may or may be looking for offtakers. They or may be looking for offtakers. They call them offtakers. We just call them call them offtakers. We just call them workloads. And so getting workloads workloads. And so getting workloads mapped efficiently cryptographically mapped efficiently cryptographically like we talked about Alexi uh how do we like we talked about Alexi uh how do we ensure the that the application ensure the that the application container can be scheduled securely in a container can be scheduled securely in a trustless environment and the way that trustless environment and the way that we've been looking at that as an we've been looking at that as an industry where through IBM and the our industry where through IBM and the our friends at the um the Linux Foundation friends at the um the Linux Foundation decentralized trust there's also work decentralized trust there's also work with uh our friends with um the uh the with uh our friends with um the uh the hyperledger foundation that worked hyperledger foundation that worked really closely on decentralized phys uh really closely on decentralized phys uh digital infrastructure and so yeah digital infrastructure and so yeah taking those primitive ities from web 2, taking those primitive ities from web 2, web 3 and fusing them into what we're web 3 and fusing them into what we're calling the next version of the calling the next version of the internet. So, it's a lot of fun people internet. So, it's a lot of fun people around us, a lot of former IBM, a lot of around us, a lot of former IBM, a lot of uh creators of like protocols like uh creators of like protocols like Docker, they're all working with us to Docker, they're all working with us to figure this stuff out. figure this stuff out. So, this is awesome, right? Like what I So, this is awesome, right? Like what I found the one of the best perks of uh found the one of the best perks of uh working with Adam, you get, you know, working with Adam, you get, you know, introduced to completely new parts of introduced to completely new parts of the world, right? And suddenly you're the world, right? And suddenly you're thinking of people dragging you know thinking of people dragging you know optic fiber into you know across the optic fiber into you know across the ocean and like what is the entry point ocean and like what is the entry point of that and like how does that affect of that and like how does that affect the world right like so so how so the the world right like so so how so the DTR is your vehicle to bring the DTR is your vehicle to bring the community together you get new office in community together you get new office in New York how do people and community New York how do people and community members get involved how do you engage members get involved how do you engage how people can help companies how how people can help companies how governments can take advantage of our governments can take advantage of our community community so we're very similar to the Linux so we're very similar to the Linux foundation foundation. We're working foundation foundation. We're working with a a nonprofit 501c3 foundation with a a nonprofit 501c3 foundation headquartered in Colorado. It's called headquartered in Colorado. It's called the UR Foundation, Universal Object the UR Foundation, Universal Object Reference Foundation. Uh I'm a member of Reference Foundation. Uh I'm a member of the community. We're targeting we're the community. We're targeting we're we're basically bringing people that are we're basically bringing people that are passionate about future uh sovereign AI passionate about future uh sovereign AI infrastructure to UR and then from that infrastructure to UR and then from that we can build specs protocols standards we can build specs protocols standards products and then of course distribute products and then of course distribute that to customers whether those are that to customers whether those are governments whether those are governments whether those are telecommunications companies we work telecommunications companies we work with neoclouds we're working with with neoclouds we're working with healthcare and so getting the market to healthcare and so getting the market to understand how important it is to really understand how important it is to really own our data and we were just actually own our data and we were just actually at listening to the CEO of Lakesale and at listening to the CEO of Lakesale and one of my favorite takeaways from the one of my favorite takeaways from the discussion is that databases are discussion is that databases are expensive. Managing databases are very expensive. Managing databases are very expensive. Data warehouses are even more expensive. Data warehouses are even more expensive because the compute required expensive because the compute required to run those workloads can be had to run those workloads can be had literally terabytes of of memory. And literally terabytes of of memory. And what the folks at Lakesale for example what the folks at Lakesale for example is a great example have done uh plugging is a great example have done uh plugging the open source project in of course the open source project in of course Alexi is is taking these lessons learned Alexi is is taking these lessons learned from running these scheduled systems at from running these scheduled systems at scale repackaging them for more scale repackaging them for more efficient and and ultimately more um efficient and and ultimately more um equitable AI workloads. So getting those equitable AI workloads. So getting those lessons quickly distributed to the lessons quickly distributed to the community is very very important for us community is very very important for us and then sharing lessons learned in the and then sharing lessons learned in the field and how to break things is always field and how to break things is always great. great. Fantastic. So final question do people Fantastic. So final question do people find you if they want to find you? My find you if they want to find you? My name is Adam Delva, only one of me in name is Adam Delva, only one of me in the world. And the UR Foundation is the the world. And the UR Foundation is the best place to check us out. I'm also at best place to check us out. I'm also at Adelva at Twitter, but I I'm not famous Adelva at Twitter, but I I'm not famous on Twitter. So, but yeah, check me out on Twitter. So, but yeah, check me out on LinkedIn on LinkedIn and we'll put the links under the video. and we'll put the links under the video. So, check out DGR, check out Adam, get So, check out DGR, check out Adam, get connected and get go in the community. connected and get go in the community. Let's create network effects. Let's make Let's create network effects. Let's make the world a better place through open the world a better place through open source decentralized secure AI source decentralized secure AI and show them the view before we go. and show them the view before we go. And And this is my city, guys. Welcome to New this is my city, guys. Welcome to New York. York. Check out that. Check out that. And here we are. And here we are. Look at that. So that's that's my old Look at that. So that's that's my old office, guys. And yeah, welcome to New office, guys. And yeah, welcome to New York City. We'll see you soon. York City. We'll see you soon. Yes. Come join us. Cheers. See you in Yes. Come join us. Cheers. See you in the community.

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