Roman Shaposhnik Interview

my name is Roman chapeau sneak I work my name is Roman chapeau sneak I work for the company called pivotal as for the company called pivotal as director of open source strategy I think director of open source strategy I think the conference was extremely well run it the conference was extremely well run it was really nice to see so many was really nice to see so many practitioners you know come together to practitioners you know come together to share the use cases and just you know share the use cases and just you know swap stories and practices it's really swap stories and practices it's really needed you know because right now we're needed you know because right now we're sort of in this you know peak time of sort of in this you know peak time of confusion around you know big data and confusion around you know big data and how to build applications you know how to build applications you know leveraging big data so it's great to see leveraging big data so it's great to see so many people sort of coming together so many people sort of coming together to try to solve some of those problems to me the most interesting trend is to me the most interesting trend is basically this merge between sort of basically this merge between sort of data and you know data management you data and you know data management you know we call some of those you know sort know we call some of those you know sort of function data engineering an of function data engineering an essential application development so essential application development so that's actually what pivotal is in that's actually what pivotal is in business of doing enabling next business of doing enabling next generation you know smart data driven generation you know smart data driven applications and how we can basically applications and how we can basically make sure that three constituency which make sure that three constituency which is you know developers of the is you know developers of the applications data scientists and people applications data scientists and people who make sure that nothing ever goes who make sure that nothing ever goes down you can call them DevOps I down you can call them DevOps I typically call them setup mins how we typically call them setup mins how we can how can we make sure that those can how can we make sure that those three constituency can be super three constituency can be super efficient in essentially delighting the efficient in essentially delighting the customer of you know whatever it is that customer of you know whatever it is that the enterprise's building is the biggest the enterprise's building is the biggest question of all and to me is exciting to question of all and to me is exciting to see again you know different approaches see again you know different approaches of solving that question so I actually was on the panel so we had so I actually was on the panel so we had a panel on sort of future of the data a panel on sort of future of the data pipelines and it was a great panel i pipelines and it was a great panel i think you know there was tons of inside think you know there was tons of inside one thing that kind of struck me is one thing that kind of struck me is interesting and not just at the panel interesting and not just at the panel but basically throughout the conference but basically throughout the conference is that we are essentially avoiding a is that we are essentially avoiding a huge elephant in the room and i don't huge elephant in the room and i don't mean who do actually mean apache hadoop mean who do actually mean apache hadoop nobody really calls the projects that nobody really calls the projects that everybody is using what they need to be everybody is using what they need to be called they pretty much all of them you called they pretty much all of them you know with a few good exceptions are know with a few good exceptions are apache software foundation projects and apache software foundation projects and we should not really forget about that we should not really forget about that so to me sort of realizing how many so to me sort of realizing how many people don't really even know that spark people don't really even know that spark is not a data brakes project product is not a data brakes project product spark is an Apache spark which is a spark is an Apache spark which is a collaborative community managed out of collaborative community managed out of apache software foundation just to see apache software foundation just to see how many people don't even realize that how many people don't even realize that you know that gap that exists was you you know that gap that exists was you know probably the biggest takeaway that know probably the biggest takeaway that i like ha i guess i need to talk about i like ha i guess i need to talk about it so I'm talking about it in a way in a way and you know our in a way in a way and you know our industry software industry is probably industry software industry is probably the worst in you know forgetting our own the worst in you know forgetting our own history in a very very short you know history in a very very short you know period of time and you know I'm an old period of time and you know I'm an old guy reasonably old guy so to me you know guy reasonably old guy so to me you know some of the things that we're seeing some of the things that we're seeing today and you know feeling like it's today and you know feeling like it's happening for us you know to us for the happening for us you know to us for the first time like those were exactly the first time like those were exactly the things happening around the database things happening around the database industry not a lot of people realize industry not a lot of people realize that there used to be a time when object that there used to be a time when object database versus you know relational database versus you know relational database wasn't really settled passion database wasn't really settled passion there were tons of object database is there were tons of object database is coming you know from the small talk coming you know from the small talk community you know gemstone a good community you know gemstone a good example of that and that was really a example of that and that was really a pretty heated debate so yeah we're you pretty heated debate so yeah we're you know pretty bad it's sort of remembering know pretty bad it's sort of remembering our own history that's part of it but our own history that's part of it but another part of it is you know we are another part of it is you know we are sort of looking for the magic solution sort of looking for the magic solution all the time sort of for the silver all the time sort of for the silver bullet right you know without realizing bullet right you know without realizing that all of this software is only as that all of this software is only as good as the community developing it and good as the community developing it and to me sort of that is the biggest to me sort of that is the biggest takeaway of all right you know if you takeaway of all right you know if you really want community that's what apache really want community that's what apache software foundation is all about in a software foundation is all about in a way the technology will come if the way the technology will come if the community is good enough but if your community is good enough but if your community as bad even if you entrusted community as bad even if you entrusted with the most you know awesome piece of with the most you know awesome piece of technology it'll bit rot like there is technology it'll bit rot like there is no tomorrow you